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The numbers don't add up!!

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Published: Friday, 26 July 2024 21:37
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Over the last 10 years, the numbers of YouTube channels that are posting videos related to sightings has caused a tremendous issue for the Bigfoot Community and it's credibility to the scientific community.  What's that issue, D.W.?  Well let's just answer that question.  The numbers of these "sightings" does not match up to the possible numbers of the Bigfoot population.  It's impossible that we have a sizable Bigfoot population that matches up to the number of Bigfoot sightings that these YouTube channels keep popping out like an assembly line.

Let's take the following numbers here, that Trevor Wheelwright put together in his article you can find here.

These sightings were taken from reports to the BFRO that have been published on their public website, and even when you add all the other websites out there collecting sighting reports like NAWAC, MABRC, GCBRO, OregonBigfoot and the many smaller groups out there, these numbers are unlikely to increase by more than two in any given state.

Yet if you add all the so-called sightings from YouTube channels, where they tend to add a huge degree of sensationalism to the stories they tell, those numbers would likely have to increase by 1000 fold.

If this is the case, and here is another map showing Bigfoot sightings in the United States from the BFRO database, the number of Bigfoot in the Continental United States would have to number at least one million Bigfoot to be able to produce that many sightings.

Just looking at the dots on the map above, a large majority of these reported sightings are occurring in areas where Bigfoot could not possibly co-exist with humanity without a body being recovered.  Now trust me when I say, I believe Bigfoot exists, I've had encounters with them in highly active research areas, but these areas were in rural areas with large acreage of woods.  I'm just very skeptical of the number of "sightings" being claimed by people.

Once again, Trevor ran the numbers so let's take a look at the Bigfoot sightings by state and the human population for each.

State
Sightings
State population
Sightings per 100k

Alaska

22

731,545

3

Alabama

98

4,903,185

2

Arkansas

108

3,017,825

3.6

Arizona

84

7,278,717

1.2

California

445

39,512,223

1.1

Colorado

128

5,758,736

2.2

Connecticut

18

3,565,287

0.5

Delaware

5

973,764

0.5

Florida

328

21,477,737

1.5
 

Georgia

132

10,617,423

1.2

Iowa

76

3,155,070

2.4

Idaho

93

1,792,065

5.2

Illinois

296

12,671,821

2.3

Indiana

80

6,732,219

1.2

Kansas

47

2,913,314

1.6

Kentucky

113

4,467,673

2.5

Louisiana

43

4,648,794

0.9

Massachusetts

35

6,949,503

0.5

Maryland

34

6,045,680

0.6
 

Maine

17

1,344,212

1.3

Michigan

220

9,986,857

2.2

Minnesota

74

5,639,632

1.3

Missouri

154

6,137,428

2.5

Mississippi

23

2,976,149

0.8

Montana

52

1,068,778

4.9

North Carolina

98

10,488,084

0.9

North Dakota

6

762,062

0.8

Nebraska

15

1,934,408

0.8

New Hampshire

16

1,359,711

1.2

New Jersey

72

8,882,190

0.8

New Mexico

42

2,096,829

2

Nevada

9

3,080,156

0.3

New York

113

19,453,561

0.6

Ohio

302

11,689,100

2.6

Oklahoma

104

3,956,971

2.6

Oregon

254

4,217,737

6

Pennsylvania

118

12,801,989

0.9

Rhode Island

5

1,059,361

0.5

South Carolina

52

5,148,714

1

South Dakota

19

884,659

2.1

Tennessee

102

6,833,174

1.5

Texas

246

28,995,881

0.8

Utah

70

3,205,958

2.2

Virginia

80

8,535,519

0.9

Vermont

10

623,989

1.6

Washington

676

7,614,893

8.9

Wisconsin

102

5,822,434

1.8

West Virginia

104

1,787,147

5.8

Wyoming

28

578,759

4.8

 These numbers would probably fit in with a Bigfoot/Sasquatch population equal to 10,000 animals, which is what I've heard Dr. Meldrum say that is a logical number, and I agree.

Take New York for example, there are 113 Bigfoot sightings, while it's assumed that these were more likely from upstate where the population of humans is significantly decreased, there are more and more reports being generated within Central Park in New York City, where people are very likely experiencing mental health issues and seeing things.

There is no way a Bigfoot would be able to even get to Central Park with all the human habitat, not to mention the fact that there is no real place for one to hunker down at with all the trails and numbers of people that visit the park.  The park itself is a half mile wide by 2.5 miles long, and a good part of it is taken by four small lakes, multiple baseball diamonds and quite a few roads and trails.  It's mind boggling when I see someone post about having a sighting in Central Park.

The presence of these YouTube channels, who are just muddying the water for real research have become the biggest bane for researchers.  Don't report sightings to them, report your sightings to the bigger Bigfoot groups, like the BFRO, NAWAC, GCBRO, and the MABRC.  The MABRC has long committed to combining these databases with those of groups who no longer exist, to save this information for posterity's sake.  Reporting your sighting to a YouTuber, or even a Facebook page or group, does not allow your sighting to be saved for future reference.  

There are those who claim that their sightings are usually dismissed outright for being unbelievable, you have to stop and realize that most of the above mentioned groups who take sighting reports are based on the fact that Bigfoot is flesh and blood, and nothing supernatural about them, they don't cloak, they don't use portals, they don't zap people with infrasound, so if you include that information in your sighting report, it usually gets laid aside as being a WOO sighting report.  

Above all else folks, the numbers do not add up, the number of sightings seems to always increase when there is a popular Bigfoot TV show on, and this includes Mountain Monsters, people have to understand, these shows are made for entertainment value only and most of the information they claim on there is just made up to increase the entertainment value.

As seen on TV

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Published: Friday, 26 July 2024 20:43
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With TV shows like Finding Bigfoot and Expedition Bigfoot, they tend to show that there is something happening every minute of the show, and when they claim something happens, they act like it's a huge thing.

Unfortunately, for those who watch these shows and then go out in the woods to try and do their own research, they tend to believe that something has to happen the entire time they are out there, and that is the farthest thing from the truth.  I've been out on listening posts with audio and thermal equipment on three different occasions in the last few weeks, and out of those three times, I only heard vocalizations on one of them, and even then they were faint and far from where I was at.  Doing field research means that at times, you can go for quite a few times in the woods without something Bigfoot related happening.  There have been times in my research that I've went for nearly a year without anything happening, then one time I go out and BOOM!! lot's of Bigfoot-related activity occurs.  If you go out every time you go into the woods and claim something happens that is Bigfoot, you really need to re-examine your approach and skepticism.  The odds of you having all this activity even in a highly active area is trillions-to-one, it's just not going to happen to have activity every time you go out.  For those YouTubers and Facebook Bigfoot Celebs that will try to convince you that they are so good, that they can find Bigfoot every time they go out, they are full of it.  The good researchers, the ones who have been doing this for years, they know different, lots of time just sitting around waiting for something to happen, and then once in a great while, something does.

To illustrate, I am putting the posts made on Facebook for each occasion here so that you can understand what I'm trying to say.

 

 
8-2-2024 - This night my wife and I went out and set up a listening post at the city lake, which is about 10 miles from town as the crow flies, the point being that we would sit at a good position that would let us scan most of the shoreline with the thermal, in hopes of catching wildlife (Bigfoot included) getting drinks. We sat there for several hours and the only thing heard besides the frogs and crickets, were barking dogs about a mile away, and then some racoons getting into it near where we were sitting at. Afterwards, we drove down about 5 miles of dirt roads on the way out with the thermal scanning the woods on the driver's side of the truck, no sign of deer, which was really weird since we seldom, if ever, do not see at least one or two deer when we do that.
 
Most of the animals are moving down closer to the water with the drought conditions, we just have to figure out which water source they are using.
 
Here is part of the Thermal Footage from 8-2-2024, at the Stilwell, OK city lake, it's actually out in a rural area away from town. It shows us driving over the dam for the lake, and as a side note, there have been multiple sightings of Bigfoot here. Below the dam, witnesses observed a large shaggy creature standing at the pump station for the city lake underneath an outside light, speculation is that maybe it was trying to snag bats as they swooped down to get bugs flying around the light.
 
Another incident occurred at the dam as witnesses described seeing an upright furry creature bolt across the road on the south-end of the dam into the woods beyond.
 
And one unforgettable sighting occurred when a couple was parked along the shoreline and while in the backseat making out, the woman looked up to see the white bigfoot looking through the back window at them. When she screamed, the man looked up to see the Bigfoot scampering away into the woods.
 
So for those who may want to watch the thermal footage, as we drive, we usually try to do under 10 miles an hour so it don't get blurry on the video, sometimes though, it's hard to slow down when going down a hill.
 

 

 
 
8-7-2024 - Squatchfinder and I went out for the night at The Crossing, setting up a listening post along the creek there, the water was running enough to make the water clear, so we hoped to see some wildlife, including Bigfoot come down to drink after dark. Using thermals, audio recorders and our own eyes and ears, we sat for nearly 5 hours before climbing into our vehicles about midnight to get some shut eye and every so often, since our windows were down, we would scan the creek bed and the opposite bank for any activity.
 
Some notable events that happened, about 11 PM, someone to the north of us, rapid fired a rifle about 20 times. Later about 1 AM, the same rifle was fired about a dozen times in rapid fire from what appeared to be in the valley beyond the Crossing.
 
Vocalizations were heard about 4 AM in the Valley, not sure if the audio recorders picked it up, but it was audible enough to make out with the human ear.
 
There was movement through the trees behind the vehicles for a part of the night, with several snapped limbs and what sounded like a small tree being pushed down.
 
About 2 AM, someone came down in the area with a Side by side UTV and stopped before coming up to the vehicles, turning around and going around to the other side of the gravel bar where they sit for about 10 minutes before zooming out of the area. The UTV driver I suspect is a former MABRC member who keeps sneaking into my research areas, something that he does to everyone that let's him know where their research areas are located at.
 
The audio review will be done this weekend and if anything good was captured, I will post it here and on The Bigfoot Field Guide website.
 
 
 
8-9-2024 - Cherokee Rose and I went out to sit at the crossing, the water there is still flowing enough that the water is good to drink for the local wildlife. Using the thermals, we watched the length of the creek to see if we could spot anything, while we had an audio recorder going on top of the truck to hopefully catch any vocalizations. After several hours, we decided to cross into the Valley and set up deeper in the woods beyond the crossing. There was a lot of damage from previous flooding in the area, with trees pushed aside along the trail going in. With the audio recorder going, and the thermal recording, we sat for several hours before heading back in. No animals moving in the area, likely they are moving in the very early hours of morning like they have done in the past on expeditions in the area. The Bigfoot usually travel up this one creek bed that bends around that area and pops out on the main creek, we've heard them early in the morning as they would work their way around the camp there. Needless to say, with the drought conditions, unless they've found a good watering hole that hasn't dried up, this area is our best bet to see any creatures trying to stay hydrated.
 
 
 This follows along with what happened with Ghosthunters when they first came out, people thought that something happened every time they did an investigation, and that it would happen to them too when they did investigations.  It wasn't until the second season of Ghosthunters that it came out that a lot of hoaxing was happening to make the show more exciting and entertaining.  Don't fall into this trap, do not make things up to make it exciting for your followers, it just hurts the Bigfoot Community and any credibility we hope to establish with the scientific community and proving that Bigfoot exists.
 

Bigfoot drummer??

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Published: Tuesday, 30 July 2024 22:26
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While continuing going through old audio files, I came across an incident that had me shake my head in disbelief.  Something appears to be beating on a plastic tub or bucket in the woods near one of my drop box recorders.  Before and after you hear something approach and walk away (Extended version) while no human speech is heard in the process.  Can I say it was a Bigfoot?  Nope, can't say that, it's posted here because of the fact it did happen in a well known and highly active research area.

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Extended Version

 

Bigfoot Field Guide Presents Orig-6 and Ed Smith

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Published: Tuesday, 30 July 2024 21:56
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For many in the Bigfoot Community who are newer, you won't have much of a clue who Ed Smith is, or the Daisy in the Box incident that led to his ultimate dismissal from the Bigfoot Community, never to show his face again.

Originally, he approached the MABRC on their forums, with lots of great technical talk and detail to what he was posting, this in turn led to some trust being developed before things slowly became stagnant with Ed and all his promises and claims.

Then one fateful day, he announced "Daisy is in the box" on the MABRC Forums without consulting anyone and the Internet exploded.

This is the book, complete with screen captures, documents and more, that tells the story of that Incident and the key scenes that led to it all.  So delve into the book, it's being released for free, and keep abreast of any additional information that is placed here about it.

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