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Published: Friday, 26 July 2024 20:43
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With TV shows like Finding Bigfoot and Expedition Bigfoot, they tend to show that there is something happening every minute of the show, and when they claim something happens, they act like it's a huge thing.

Unfortunately, for those who watch these shows and then go out in the woods to try and do their own research, they tend to believe that something has to happen the entire time they are out there, and that is the farthest thing from the truth.  I've been out on listening posts with audio and thermal equipment on three different occasions in the last few weeks, and out of those three times, I only heard vocalizations on one of them, and even then they were faint and far from where I was at.  Doing field research means that at times, you can go for quite a few times in the woods without something Bigfoot related happening.  There have been times in my research that I've went for nearly a year without anything happening, then one time I go out and BOOM!! lot's of Bigfoot-related activity occurs.  If you go out every time you go into the woods and claim something happens that is Bigfoot, you really need to re-examine your approach and skepticism.  The odds of you having all this activity even in a highly active area is trillions-to-one, it's just not going to happen to have activity every time you go out.  For those YouTubers and Facebook Bigfoot Celebs that will try to convince you that they are so good, that they can find Bigfoot every time they go out, they are full of it.  The good researchers, the ones who have been doing this for years, they know different, lots of time just sitting around waiting for something to happen, and then once in a great while, something does.

To illustrate, I am putting the posts made on Facebook for each occasion here so that you can understand what I'm trying to say.

 

 
8-2-2024 - This night my wife and I went out and set up a listening post at the city lake, which is about 10 miles from town as the crow flies, the point being that we would sit at a good position that would let us scan most of the shoreline with the thermal, in hopes of catching wildlife (Bigfoot included) getting drinks. We sat there for several hours and the only thing heard besides the frogs and crickets, were barking dogs about a mile away, and then some racoons getting into it near where we were sitting at. Afterwards, we drove down about 5 miles of dirt roads on the way out with the thermal scanning the woods on the driver's side of the truck, no sign of deer, which was really weird since we seldom, if ever, do not see at least one or two deer when we do that.
 
Most of the animals are moving down closer to the water with the drought conditions, we just have to figure out which water source they are using.
 
Here is part of the Thermal Footage from 8-2-2024, at the Stilwell, OK city lake, it's actually out in a rural area away from town. It shows us driving over the dam for the lake, and as a side note, there have been multiple sightings of Bigfoot here. Below the dam, witnesses observed a large shaggy creature standing at the pump station for the city lake underneath an outside light, speculation is that maybe it was trying to snag bats as they swooped down to get bugs flying around the light.
 
Another incident occurred at the dam as witnesses described seeing an upright furry creature bolt across the road on the south-end of the dam into the woods beyond.
 
And one unforgettable sighting occurred when a couple was parked along the shoreline and while in the backseat making out, the woman looked up to see the white bigfoot looking through the back window at them. When she screamed, the man looked up to see the Bigfoot scampering away into the woods.
 
So for those who may want to watch the thermal footage, as we drive, we usually try to do under 10 miles an hour so it don't get blurry on the video, sometimes though, it's hard to slow down when going down a hill.
 

 

 
 
8-7-2024 - Squatchfinder and I went out for the night at The Crossing, setting up a listening post along the creek there, the water was running enough to make the water clear, so we hoped to see some wildlife, including Bigfoot come down to drink after dark. Using thermals, audio recorders and our own eyes and ears, we sat for nearly 5 hours before climbing into our vehicles about midnight to get some shut eye and every so often, since our windows were down, we would scan the creek bed and the opposite bank for any activity.
 
Some notable events that happened, about 11 PM, someone to the north of us, rapid fired a rifle about 20 times. Later about 1 AM, the same rifle was fired about a dozen times in rapid fire from what appeared to be in the valley beyond the Crossing.
 
Vocalizations were heard about 4 AM in the Valley, not sure if the audio recorders picked it up, but it was audible enough to make out with the human ear.
 
There was movement through the trees behind the vehicles for a part of the night, with several snapped limbs and what sounded like a small tree being pushed down.
 
About 2 AM, someone came down in the area with a Side by side UTV and stopped before coming up to the vehicles, turning around and going around to the other side of the gravel bar where they sit for about 10 minutes before zooming out of the area. The UTV driver I suspect is a former MABRC member who keeps sneaking into my research areas, something that he does to everyone that let's him know where their research areas are located at.
 
The audio review will be done this weekend and if anything good was captured, I will post it here and on The Bigfoot Field Guide website.
 
 
 
8-9-2024 - Cherokee Rose and I went out to sit at the crossing, the water there is still flowing enough that the water is good to drink for the local wildlife. Using the thermals, we watched the length of the creek to see if we could spot anything, while we had an audio recorder going on top of the truck to hopefully catch any vocalizations. After several hours, we decided to cross into the Valley and set up deeper in the woods beyond the crossing. There was a lot of damage from previous flooding in the area, with trees pushed aside along the trail going in. With the audio recorder going, and the thermal recording, we sat for several hours before heading back in. No animals moving in the area, likely they are moving in the very early hours of morning like they have done in the past on expeditions in the area. The Bigfoot usually travel up this one creek bed that bends around that area and pops out on the main creek, we've heard them early in the morning as they would work their way around the camp there. Needless to say, with the drought conditions, unless they've found a good watering hole that hasn't dried up, this area is our best bet to see any creatures trying to stay hydrated.
 
 
 This follows along with what happened with Ghosthunters when they first came out, people thought that something happened every time they did an investigation, and that it would happen to them too when they did investigations.  It wasn't until the second season of Ghosthunters that it came out that a lot of hoaxing was happening to make the show more exciting and entertaining.  Don't fall into this trap, do not make things up to make it exciting for your followers, it just hurts the Bigfoot Community and any credibility we hope to establish with the scientific community and proving that Bigfoot exists.
 

Bigfoot drummer??

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Published: Tuesday, 30 July 2024 22:26
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While continuing going through old audio files, I came across an incident that had me shake my head in disbelief.  Something appears to be beating on a plastic tub or bucket in the woods near one of my drop box recorders.  Before and after you hear something approach and walk away (Extended version) while no human speech is heard in the process.  Can I say it was a Bigfoot?  Nope, can't say that, it's posted here because of the fact it did happen in a well known and highly active research area.

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Bigfoot Field Guide Presents Orig-6 and Ed Smith

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Published: Tuesday, 30 July 2024 21:56
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For many in the Bigfoot Community who are newer, you won't have much of a clue who Ed Smith is, or the Daisy in the Box incident that led to his ultimate dismissal from the Bigfoot Community, never to show his face again.

Originally, he approached the MABRC on their forums, with lots of great technical talk and detail to what he was posting, this in turn led to some trust being developed before things slowly became stagnant with Ed and all his promises and claims.

Then one fateful day, he announced "Daisy is in the box" on the MABRC Forums without consulting anyone and the Internet exploded.

This is the book, complete with screen captures, documents and more, that tells the story of that Incident and the key scenes that led to it all.  So delve into the book, it's being released for free, and keep abreast of any additional information that is placed here about it.

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The Grass Ball Incident

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Published: Tuesday, 30 July 2024 21:06
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On June 19, 2009, Cherokee Rose and myself, went out to the location with the intention of setting up a listening post. On June 18, 2009, the landowners had left a message for us that they had found a possible track, although it was only 8 inches long. I called them back the morning of the 19th, and told them we would be heading out there with some daylight left, so we could examine the track.

The landowners expressed a desire to go out with us to the listening post, their curiosity was peaked about the recent events around their location.

Here is the interview we did with them the next day after the grass ball incident, in which they went over the exact things that are placed here, stating the story was accurate.  (For the individual who snuck down recently and claimed he recorded a conversation with the landowners, going around my back in my research areas, suck it.)

 Part One of the Interview

Part two of the Interview

We arrived, and they took us down to where the possible track was, and it appeared to be a juvenile track several weeks old, you could even see the mid-tarsal break and what looked like toes possibly. The track was uncastable due to its age, but photos were taken.

 

We then traveled down the trail for about another 3/4 mile to the field where the Feb. sighting had occurred. At the time, everyone thought we would be setting the listening post up where the sighting occurred last Thursday, but instead, I suggested going down to the end of the trail. This brought us up to the field and the gate there, and the land owner asked if we wanted to go to the other side of the field into the woods, but instead, I opted to plant us in the middle of the 40 acre plus field on the slope where we had an unobstructed view of the whole area. The average height of the vegetation in the field was about 3 feet high.

There were about 20 head of cattle on one end of the field, and they would never approach us. We also could see a large herd of deer moving along the edges of the field.

We set up our chairs with everyone facing down slope, with me occasionally looking up towards the top of the slope. As darkness fell, I put a small battery powered lantern on top of the blazer, hoping to attract attention.

About an hour after complete darkness, the landowner's son was sitting on the 4 wheeler when something hit him in the back, and we assumed that it was a bug flew into him. Then the landowner's wife was struck in the stomach with something, and thought it was a bug. This all began about 10 PM. About 5 minutes later, something struck her foot, and she was sitting furthest away from everyone. Her son took a flashlight and was looking for a rock when he found a bundle of grass that had been wrapped up with other pieces of grass, and made into basically a ball. Moments later, another object struck her, and this time it happened when a light was shining on her and the object was seen falling to the ground, it was the same type of bundled grass that had been found earlier.

I took the objects that we found and took a picture of them, I then took my night scope and began looking the surrounding area over, to our southwest in the far corner of the field, I spotted a large bi-pedal animal coming up towards us, when I painted him with the IR light on night scope, it ducked down into the vegetation. I handed the night scope to Cherokee Rose and she observed for about 5 minutes on that location and it never got back up. I would estimate it was about 7 feet tall, as a good portion of it was viewable over the height of the vegetation. It was also light color, either light brown or even possibly greyish. It is a possibility that it's the light brown one that was seen last week by the landowner's wife.

We had done a controlled wood knock at 9:30 PM, and after the creature was seen in the corner of the field, we began hearing single wood knocks at approx. 1 minute intervals traveling in the wood line to our west near the gate to the field. The distance was approximated at about 100 feet between knocks traveling to the north.

By 11:00 PM, the "balls" of grass being thrown and started slowing down, and I decided it was time for a face to face to occur with the thrower, so I picked up my small flashlight and walked out to where we thought the creatures would be laying, throwing the grass at us. I traveled about 75 feet out into the brush, and discovered trails were something had been crawling through and even where they had been possibly pulling the grass up.

While I was out there hoping to surprise one into standing up. A grass "ball" was thrown from the opposite side of where we were sitting, hitting the landowner's son in the back. With this, we got spotlights out and began going through the field trying to jump anything, as we felt there were several creatures in the field with us now. No sooner than we returned to our sitting area, one last "ball" came sailing in. After that, things calmed down and the landowners expressed a desire to leave since they had to get up early the next morning to go on a trip.

We all headed back, with all the collected grass "balls"; in plastic baggies for evidence. My biggest wish was that I would have had some thermal imaging that night, I could have found where they were laying and approached them at a run with the camera ready and got a good picture.

A view of the southwest corner of the field where the Bigfoot was spotted by the night vision scope before it ducked down.

The landowner and his son just before the grass balls come sailing in.  At first we suspected the father and son were possibly throwing them at the wife, so Cherokee Rose and I kept a close eye on them until we realized it was neither of them doing it.

Cherokee Rose with the landowner’s wife, when dark fell she began playing on her cell phone, which lit her up and made her a target for the grass balls.

The first three grass balls that were collected, during this picture being taken, and everyone present was standing around these, we watched as a 4th grass ball came sailing over and landed in the middle of us all.

 

The next day we went out to look over the area where this occurred, this is photos of the treaded down grass where something had crawled up to a point not more than 50 feet from where we sat.

A view of where we were setting from the spot concluded where whatever was throwing the grass balls at us was laying down at.

This is the spot where it appeared something was laying at and throwing the grass balls at us.

We deduced this by the fact that the grass had been snapped off in this spot, the same type of grass that the balls were made out of.

A view from behind the vegetation that the thrower would have been behind throwing the balls at us.

 

The picture above and following are the measurements of some of the grass balls including the close ups for them.  Eventually we tried to preserve them by spraying acrylic coating over them, this allowed us to keep them for about 7 years before the organic material decomposed to the point that they crumbled.  I want to thank Paul Vella for his help in trying to preserve the grass balls with his advice.